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Sam1198777 said: Umm aren't you guys getting all worked up for nothing? The episode was so good :3 i think Chisaki is pretty weird for behaving like that. Hikari go get Manakaaaaa. Sayu's confession was the best, Miuna should learn a thing or two from her, shes such a coward Don't look at me, mate. I ain't the one who believes that a few storyboards found on the world wide web has suddenly given me god-like knowledge on what is canon in this anime and how the characters think. I ain't the one who believes that this sudden give me free reign to bash others who have a different opinion, or to insult those who have openly bashed a single anime character from this anime that I like. I ain't the one acting like an immature 10 year old right now, I already backed off. P.s: I personally enjoy bantering diverse opinions on a thread, but if you're like some people who can't take that their word isn't canon and have to result to open insults and bashing, you can always just ignore me. ;) |
L-RyoshiMar 21, 2014 8:06 AM
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| I gotta hand it to Sayu. Opening her heart to Kaname finally got him to show his true emotions to her. Really moving and beautifully animated scene. =3 Chisaki is making her feelings too much of a big deal. Rejecting Tsumugu even know she does have feelings for him while desperately trying in vain to remind herself that she loves Hikari is only going to cause more misery for herself. Hopefully Chisaki and Tsugumu can talks things over soon enough. Lastly, I feel sorry for Akira. Poor guy cannot avoid being rejected as well and his reaction to it was priceless! XD |
| Personally, I think that Chisaki and remain the way it is now. I think she'll do something turretless. I can not even imagine how she will be with Tsumugu in the realities of anime (Hugs and kisses, mutual. I mean "I love you - And i love you too" Not to find fault). I think that the writer himself is not able to portray these weasels on the screen =) |
LiMaKuSMar 21, 2014 10:05 AM
Did Chisaki or Tsumugu, have any feeling towards one another before the Ofunehiki event? Lets find out. |
ToilgameshMar 23, 2014 10:44 AM
| FEEEEEEEEEEEEEELSSS Tsugumu confessed to Chisaki AHHHH Ofuneniki to bring back Manaka feelings OMG OMG OMG The moment I saw Edgawa I was tearing up T__T Kaname accepted Sayu's feeling T____T Wave the Flag and bring back Manaka's lost feelings Hii-kun!! |
| CHISAKI NO BAKAAAAAAAAA!!! She is totally in denial!! Tsumugu is always perceptive, he has been watching her this five years and realize how Chisaki slowly fall for him. That's why in previous episode he ask Chisaki (why would she feel relieved if she lost the ability to fall in love) it's because he knew it means Chisaki wants her current feeling about him to disappear. And I'm sure Tsumugu also understand why she rejected him (not because she doesn't love him, but because she still force herself to be the Chisaki before time skip, the Chisaki who still in love with Hikari), and he definitely won't give up just yet, so he proposed his idea about the ofunehiki to help Manaka get her ability to love back. I also think that Tsumugu somewhat know that the one Manaka love is not him but Hikari! That's also the more reason for him to help Manaka get her feeling back asap so Chisaki won't deceive her feeling anymore. Yay Tsusaki ship is sailing at full speed!!!! I'm sure Chisaki will realize sooner or later, she can't deceive her feeling forever. I almost guarantee Tsusaki will happening! Cheers Tsusaki fans! \(^o^)/ and about Kaname....ughhh poor Kaname!!!!!! I love him!!!! I think he is the most hurting out of them!! I actually cried when Kaname started crying........T^T Sayu is great too!! I'm very very satisfied at how Kaname is handled. I think it's safe to say that Kaname is ready to move on. Yay for Kaname x Sayu! You go girl! lol at Akira's love letter XD so cute~ IMO what will happen in the end: Chisaki x Tsumugu Kaname x Sayu Hikari x Manaka Miuna will be the sacrifice Oh, and about how Miuna and Tsumugu got ena, I think it's not just some coincidence or random, there are some things Miuna and Tsumugu have in common, both love the sea so much, and both have sea dwellers as relative, in Miuna's case it's her mom, and in Tsumugu's case, it's his grandpa. I think in the future, things about the ena that lies dormant in the baby from sea x land people will be found out more, so the sea x land people relationship would no longer forbidden. Well it's just a guess tho |
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Tony777 said: Thx for your big work... Those who are worried must rewatch this anime |
| Where are Chisaki x Hikari scenes? Maybe in next eposode? |
LiMaKuS said: Tony777 said: Thx for your big work... Those who are worried must rewatch this animeOh my that was quite the work there, thanks Tony777. There are so many things I'm not agree but I don't think I can explain it well because my limited english capability... damn... But one thing I want to say is, they didn't love each other yet before time skip, they only interested in one another, and Kaname realize it, it's a hints you missed at episode 12. Kaname make an annoyed/jealous face or kind of didn't like the idea of Chisaki going to town with Manaka and Tsumugu. What do you think? Go rewatch and look at Kaname's face, I thing it's a hint, Kaname realize/sense that at least THERE is something between Chisaki and Tsumugu. Well some can argue he just worried because he know Chisaki hate Tsumugu from episode 9... but, I think it's not a worried expression....imo. And the bump shoulder, yes it maybe natural for other anime, but I think in this anime, that count as a hint. I mean, look how the camera focused. If it's just a normal scene, I think there's no need to zoom it in. It's like the author wants us to think theres something there. Also why do you think Tsumugu look at the clock, and then the camera focused not to the time, but to Tsumugu? What do you interpret that scene? I hope you understand what I mean....fyuuh it takes so much time for me just to points out this... This is all from episode 12, there are also from other episodes, I hope there is someone who is willing to do better explanations... Ah, wait, I think I would do one more thing...in episode 5, When Chisaki was talking to herself, and then Tsumugu come... she apologize to Tsumugu, and then He suddenly ask if she likes Hikari....Tsumugu interested in something other than fish or sea is definitely something don't you think? Note that when he confess in episode 23, he said he started to take interest in Chisaki since the moments occured at episode 4, when he saw Chisaki lose her cool. It means, when he ask if Chisaki likes Hikari the following day, he already interested in her, and I guess "why Chisaki doing as far as lying to defend Hikari and lose her cool" in episode 4 had been in Tsumugu's head, thats why he asked her the following day in episode 5. Also, note that almost all the conversation between Tsumugu and Chisaki is more personal than with Manaka. And you have to pay more attention to Tsumugu's expression. He shows very little, like how his smile is not really visible if you not pay attention. Well that what I interpreted things...I might be biased, so I wanted to know other opinion... |
CrimsonMidnightMar 21, 2014 12:32 PM
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Shicchi said: I am agreeing with you on this. Didn't Tsumugu start taking interest in Chisaki, when she was trying to defend Hikari? Because it seem like that to me, after his confession.LiMaKuS said: Tony777 said: Thx for your big work... Those who are worried must rewatch this animeOh my that was quite the work there, thanks Tony777. There are so many things I'm not agree but I don't think I can explain it well because my limited english capability... damn... But one thing I want to say is, they didn't love each other yet before time skip, they only interested in one another, and Kaname realize it, it's a hints you missed at episode 12. Kaname make an annoyed/jealous face or kind of didn't like the idea of Chisaki going to town with Manaka and Tsumugu. What do you think? Go rewatch and look at Kaname's face, I thing it's a hint, Kaname realize/sense that at least THERE is something between Chisaki and Tsumugu. Well some can argue he just worried because he know Chisaki hate Tsumugu from episode 9... but, I think it's not a worried expression....imo. And the bump shoulder, yes it maybe natural for other anime, but I think in this anime, that count as a hint. I mean, look how the camera focused. If it's just a normal scene, I think there's no need to zoom it in. It's like the author wants us to think theres something there. Also why do you think Tsumugu look at the clock, and then the camera focused not to the time, but to Tsumugu? What do you interpret that scene? I hope you understand what I mean....fyuuh it takes so much time for me just to points out this... This is all from episode 12, there are also from other episodes, I hope there is someone who is willing to do better explanations... Ah, wait, I think I would do one more thing...in episode 5, When Chisaki was talking to herself, and then Tsumugu come... she apologize to Tsumugu, and then He suddenly ask if she likes Hikari....Tsumugu interested in something other than fish or sea is definitely something don't you think? Also, note that almost all the conversation between Tsumugu and Chisaki is more personal than with Manaka. And you have to pay more attention to Tsumugu's expression. He shows very little, like how his smile is not really visible if you not pay attention. Well that what I interpreted things...I might be biased, so I wanted to know other opinion... Kaname did show a kind of worried/Jealous expression when Hikari told him Tsumugu went with them, as if he knew something was up with Chisaki and Kaname. But as you said, I think they first started to really fall in love with each other during the five years timeskip, but Tsumugu for me, was definitely interested in Chisaki during the first cour. |
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Shicchi said: LiMaKuS said: Tony777 said: Thx for your big work... Those who are worried must rewatch this animeOh my that was quite the work there, thanks Tony777. There are so many things I'm not agree but I don't think I can explain it well because my limited english capability... damn... But one thing I want to say is, they didn't love each other yet before time skip, they only interested in one another, and Kaname realize it, it's a hints you missed at episode 12. Kaname make an annoyed/jealous face or kind of didn't like the idea of Chisaki going to town with Manaka and Tsumugu. What do you think? Go rewatch and look at Kaname's face, I thing it's a hint, Kaname realize/sense that at least THERE is something between Chisaki and Tsumugu. Well some can argue he just worried because he know Chisaki hate Tsumugu from episode 9... but, I think it's not a worried expression....imo. And the bump shoulder, yes it maybe natural for other anime, but I think in this anime, that count as a hint. I mean, look how the camera focused. If it's just a normal scene, I think there's no need to zoom it in. It's like the author wants us to think theres something there. Also why do you think Tsumugu look at the clock, and then the camera focused not to the time, but to Tsumugu? What do you interpret that scene? I hope you understand what I mean....fyuuh it takes so much time for me just to points out this... This is all from episode 12, there are also from other episodes, I hope there is someone who is willing to do better explanations... Ah, wait, I think I would do one more thing...in episode 5, When Chisaki was talking to herself, and then Tsumugu come... she apologize to Tsumugu, and then He suddenly ask if she likes Hikari....Tsumugu interested in something other than fish or sea is definitely something don't you think? Also, note that almost all the conversation between Tsumugu and Chisaki is more personal than with Manaka. And you have to pay more attention to Tsumugu's expression. He shows very little, like how his smile is not really visible if you not pay attention. Well that what I interpreted things...I might be biased, so I wanted to know other opinion... Yea just re-watched that scene in episode 12. Kaname was visibly upset about the idea of Chisaki going to town with Manaka and Tsumugu. I think this is another example of Kaname feeling like he was being left out. Also episode 9 where Tsumugu is talking with Chisaki when she was replenishing her Ena.... Tsumugu said he doesn't dislike her the way she is now. I thought it was more of a subtle compliment than a neutral statement though it rubbed Chisaki the wrong way. I think the connotation was more of a I'm fine with the way you are now. Anyways I think Chisaki's feelings for Tsumugu were planted when she started to confine in him about Hikari. Though to say she was interested in Tsumugu from the start is a bit of a stretch. To state it simply he was there to listen to her even though he may have rubbed her the wrong way on numerous occasions. However, she has apologized every time and admitted she was wrong during these conversations. Having said that, I think Chisaki was, at the very least, in very good terms with Tsumugu going into the time skip. Slap on another 5 years of living in the same house, and you have yourself a love story. All of these conversations can be interpreted differently but that's how I see it. |
zzzeallyMar 21, 2014 12:50 PM
Thanks. I'll break down your misconceptions. 1. There is no indication or hint of them interested (love or like) in each other before the time skip. I see no indication in that scene from episode 9. As I said, it is a common thing to see in anime, when girls bump into guys. As I said "Simply, she just recognizes him as a guy". 2. In episode 12, Kaname only got slightly jealous (barely) of Tsumugu. You are pointing out 4:29 - 4:50. If you would of watched the episode to confirm (and know the story up until this point), you would have come to the conclusion, that Kaname was concerned about Chisaki and Manaka being with Tsumugu. Basically, Kaname didn't want Tsumugu hitting on either one of them. Kaname wants to protect Manaka for Hikari and Chisaki for himself. I was going to comment on the "Jealous" topic but it was so obvious Kaname hasn't expressly shown jealousy through Eps. 1 to 13, that I decided to leave it out. In fact, there is no scene of Kaname expressing his jeaousy to (and of) Tsumugu until in later episodes after the Ofunehiki event. Plus, if Chisaki did like Tsumugu then Kaname would of noticed it. After all, he's the one who watches her the most. Also, he would of pointed this out in his conversation with her in Ep 13. He would of said something like this "You know, Chisaki... You might have had your hands full with your feelings for Hikari and Tsumugu. But I did actually confess to you, too". As you know, that quote doesn't have "Tsumugu" in it. 3. "Better explanations"? I didn't even go through the other 7 episodes, you have a chance to prove me wrong. 4. In episode 5, Tsumugu asked her the question because of their conversion in episode 4. Just because he asked that kind of question, doesn't mean he has feelings for her. As I said before, you could use that argument for every idle conversation. You gotta take one hell of a leap, in order to say either one had feelings for each other before the Ofunehiki event. It's just not there. |
| Wow, great job Tony777! I am trying to read these conversations and try to see where people may have thought there were hints, but just like you, I just do not see it. It was revealed in the latest episode that Tsumugu may have started to develop feelings for Chisaki pre-time skip because he thought she was like the sea. (Like during the events he described). So there is that. I feel like the show is trying to show us this as if they were pointing to it all along but if I went back and watched it, there still would be no indication for me that those two liked/loved/whatever each other. My two cents anyways. Tsumugu x Chisaki will always be a little out of place for me and thrown together but whatever. I'm still hoping they don't end up together. |
You're welcome. Thanks. Thanks. Thank you sweetheart. I feel the same. |
ToilgameshMar 23, 2014 3:02 PM
| Does anyone know if there is even a chance of a second season or if this is it for sure? I'd really like to know XD Like, have they confirmed that it will only be one season, 26 eps? |
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| Sayu BEST.GIRL!! Sayu x Kaname -> START! Now Hikari x Miuna, let's go! And Chisaki, pls don't do this to Tsumugu :'( Cant wait for the next week D: |
Tony777 said: kisschuu said: Wow, great job Tony777! I am trying to read these conversations and try to see where people may have thought there were hints, but just like you, I just do not see it. It was revealed in the latest episode that Tsumugu may have started to develop feelings for Chisaki pre-time skip because he thought she was like the sea. (Like during the events he described). So there is that. I feel like the show is trying to show us this as if they were pointing to it all along but if I went back and watched it, there still would be no indication for me that those two liked/loved/whatever each other. My two cents anyways. Tsumugu x Chisaki will always be a little out of place for me and thrown together but whatever. I'm still hoping they don't end up together. Thank you sweetheart. I feel the same. Unfortunately I'm almost certain they will end up together ;) But then again who knows :) |
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Tony777 said: Mhh I don't agree with the people who say that there were no hints in the first cour. Some of the hints in the first cour: - Chisaki gets angry at Tsumugu and Kaname says: so you can make this kind of expressions because of him -Chisaki blushed after accidenly brushing her arm against Tsumugu (this wasn't a normal reaction of Chisaki (imagine if something like this happaned with Kaname before his confession, she certainly wouldn't blush). I am sure that this was certainly a hint for the viewers that they have to be prepared that there will be something between ChisakixTsumugu ) -Tsumugu talks with his mother and there's a scene where they focus on Chisakis and not on Manakas reaction, later Chisaki and Tsumugu are talking while Manaka is asleep (the makers wanted to show that Chisaki is a better match than Manaka for Tsumugu because she will understand him more) Yes, this were hints to prepare the viewers. No, this hints don´t mean that she's madly in love with him in the first cour. I´m 100% sure that this hints mean something like: She's starting to be attracted to him and if she starts to move on from Hikari, Tsumugu will be the next person and not Kaname. She cares more about Tsumugus opinion and ask him for advice and not Kaname who she knows since they were kids. TsumuguxChisaki was not such a surprise for me, I even felt it in the first cour. The thing is: the hints were subtle and not everyone will buy this or some people will overlook them. But every person has a different intrepretations and opinions. We shouldn't force our opinions on other people and instead be happy that people are talking and discussing about this great anime. |
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Tony777 said: Thanks. I'll break down your misconceptions. 1. There is no indication or hint of them interested (love or like) in each other before the time skip. I see no indication in that scene from episode 9. As I said, it is a common thing to see in anime, when girls bump into guys. As I said "Simply, she just recognizes him as a guy". 2. In episode 12, Kaname only got slightly jealous (barely) of Tsumugu. You are pointing out 4:29 - 4:50. If you would of watched the episode to confirm (and know the story up until this point), you would have come to the conclusion, that Kaname was concerned about Chisaki and Manaka being with Tsumugu. Basically, Kaname didn't want Tsumugu hitting on either one of them. Kaname wants to protect Manaka for Hikari and Chisaki for himself. I was going to comment on the "Jealous" topic but it was so obvious Kaname hasn't expressly shown jealousy through Eps. 1 to 13, that I decided to leave it out. In fact, there is no scene of Kaname expressing his jeaousy to (and of) Tsumugu until in later episodes after the Ofunehiki event. Plus, if Chisaki did like Tsumugu then Kaname would of noticed it. After all, he's the one who watches her the most. Also, he would of pointed this out in his conversation with her in Ep 13. He would of said something like this "You know, Chisaki... You might have had your hands full with your feelings for Hikari and Tsumugu. But I did actually confess to you, too". As you know, that quote doesn't have "Tsumugu" in it. 3. "Better explanations"? I didn't even go through the other 7 episodes, you have a chance to prove me wrong. 4. In episode 5, Tsumugu asked her the question because of their conversion in episode 4. Just because he asked that kind of question, doesn't mean he has feelings for her. As I said before, you could use that argument for every idle conversation. You gotta take one hell of a leap, in order to say either one had feelings for each other before the Ofunehiki event. It's just not there. Hmmm I see you still didn't see it that way... arrgh I've got to go to class now, I really wanted to reply a lot, but I guess next time, promise (more to myself :P) Thanks a lot for taking the time replyng me ^^ |
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Ongaku008 said: Tony777 said: Mhh I don't agree with the people who say that there were no hints in the first cour. Some of the hints in the first cour: - Chisaki gets angry at Tsumugu and Kaname says: so you can make this kind of expressions because of him -Chisaki blushed after accidenly brushing her arm against Tsumugu (this wasn't a normal reaction of Chisaki (imagine if something like this happaned with Kaname before his confession, she certainly wouldn't blush). I am sure that this was certainly a hint for the viewers that they have to be prepared that there will be something between ChisakixTsumugu ) -Tsumugu talks with his mother and there's a scene where they focus on Chisakis and not on Manakas reaction, later Chisaki and Tsumugu are talking while Manaka is asleep (the makers wanted to show that Chisaki is a better match than Manaka for Tsumugu because she will understand him more) Yes, this were hints to prepare the viewers. No, this hints don´t mean that she's madly in love with him in the first cour. I´m 100% sure that this hints mean something like: She's starting to be attracted to him and if she starts to move on from Hikari, Tsumugu will be the next person and not Kaname. She cares more about Tsumugus opinion and ask him for advice and not Kaname who she knows since they were kids. TsumuguxChisaki was not such a surprise for me, I even felt it in the first cour. The thing is: the hints were subtle and not everyone will buy this or some people will overlook them. But every person has a different intrepretations and opinions. We shouldn't force our opinions on other people and instead be happy that people are talking and discussing about this great anime. Agreed ^_~ |
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| So it seems I over estimated how similar I am to Kaname. He'll just settle for anyone. I understand where he's coming from but that just seems like running away to me. Or maybe I'm just bitter. Right now I'm most similar to post-time skip pre-Kaname awakened Sayu. I'm determined to live the rest of my life alone; however, I know that deep down I want to love someone that loves me back. |
| Dem confession, dem feels. I still hope ChisakiXTsumugu will work, and the SayuXKaname was unexpected, but I definitely approve it. This last confession was really well done, during the train scene I was really asking "has he left or is he still there?", and, well, tons of feels |
| "I love Manaka." And Manaka is just like o__o Poor Akira rejected so early on,lol. Using the pendent and wooden maiden as a replacement sacrifice.Sure hope nothing goes wrong and Miuna ends up as the sacrifice instead. Dat awkwardness when Kaname is ease dropping and Sayu is spying on Kaname.Ohh they're going out now... Really wanted Hikari to confess in that last scene. |
Shicchi said: Ongaku008 said: Tony777 said: Mhh I don't agree with the people who say that there were no hints in the first cour. Some of the hints in the first cour: - Chisaki gets angry at Tsumugu and Kaname says: so you can make this kind of expressions because of him -Chisaki blushed after accidenly brushing her arm against Tsumugu (this wasn't a normal reaction of Chisaki (imagine if something like this happaned with Kaname before his confession, she certainly wouldn't blush). I am sure that this was certainly a hint for the viewers that they have to be prepared that there will be something between ChisakixTsumugu ) -Tsumugu talks with his mother and there's a scene where they focus on Chisakis and not on Manakas reaction, later Chisaki and Tsumugu are talking while Manaka is asleep (the makers wanted to show that Chisaki is a better match than Manaka for Tsumugu because she will understand him more) Yes, this were hints to prepare the viewers. No, this hints don´t mean that she's madly in love with him in the first cour. I´m 100% sure that this hints mean something like: She's starting to be attracted to him and if she starts to move on from Hikari, Tsumugu will be the next person and not Kaname. She cares more about Tsumugus opinion and ask him for advice and not Kaname who she knows since they were kids. TsumuguxChisaki was not such a surprise for me, I even felt it in the first cour. The thing is: the hints were subtle and not everyone will buy this or some people will overlook them. But every person has a different intrepretations and opinions. We shouldn't force our opinions on other people and instead be happy that people are talking and discussing about this great anime. Agreed ^_~ Thank you Tony and Shicchi for all those insights! Tony, I feel that our observations to the first half of the anime coincide, but obviously you presented it in a much more easy to read manner. Shicchi, I do think your opinions and observations are valid, and that as you say there were many less than subtle hints that the author was preparing us all for this particular pairing before it was suddenly forced upon us due to the circumstances of the disastrous Ofunehiki event. What I believe, after reviewing the show again, is that Tsumugu actually initially started developing an interest (yes, just an interest) in Manaka and Chisaki due to the fact that they were people of the sea. But as they all became friends, the quiet observant person that he is, he began to observe them more as people, than as "People of the Sea". The episodes before the first Ofunehiki event, as each character was growing up in their own way, they all began to become conscious of themselves and others (in that "she's a Girl, I'm a Guy" way). But in no way did anything overtly romantic or sexual appear. However, Kaname being the most observant guy in the entire series with regards to Chisaki, he immediately sensed the threat of Tsumugu even BEFORE Tsumugu or Chisaki themselves realized it. In that, my initial observation of when Kaname saw Chisaki hugging Tsumugu on the boat was less of a "What the heck" moment, but rather a "Dammit, I knew it all along and it's killing my heart" moment. Fast forward to after the time skip, Tsumugu and Chisaki have been cohabiting together for 5 years time. Both of them have developed a "history" together, the way childhood friends do it. They have become acquainted with the townsfolk who are teasing them about their situation, but not so much blatant "you two should just get married" than as just friendly banter. Yes Chisaki and Tsumugu have developed a mutual understanding of each other, but even then I don't believe that Chisaki had an actual interest in Tsumugu as a potential partner, per say. Up to this point in time, I felt like I was watching a ditzy, oblivious girls from some Shoujou manga who is friendly with everyone around her and doesn't notice the true feelings of the one person that is closest to her, simply because she has become too "comfortable" being around him (i.e. my siblings or family theory). That is also probably why she chose to run away from Tsumugu and scream confusedly that she didn't love him. (Hrm... the closest example I can think of would be the plot of a Shoujou manga called "Love so Life" in which the female MC was being crushed on by a childhood friend of hers for like 10 years but in all that time was oblivious to the fact because she thought him as "family", but not the "husband and wife" type) Thus, based on my own opinion, I would think that whilst Tsumugu had probably developed feelings for Chisaki sometime during or after the first Ofunehiki event. Chisaki probably didn't notice her own feelings or even think to reciprocate them, even up to this latest episode, because she was so comfortable with the status quo. She didn't see a need to change anything, which is why when the cat was out of the bag, she needed a push from others like the poor Kaname to even consider/realize her own feelings, much less act on them (which she hasn't done thus far). At least... that's the vibe that I've received after watching 24 episodes of this. dragonlight said: So it seems I over estimated how similar I am to Kaname. He'll just settle for anyone. I understand where he's coming from but that just seems like running away to me. Or maybe I'm just bitter. Right now I'm most similar to post-time skip pre-Kaname awakened Sayu. I'm determined to live the rest of my life alone; however, I know that deep down I want to love someone that loves me back. I think this is just human nature. We all feel bitter when things don't go the way we want them to, and will say or think whatever to justify our bitterness. It's like when we are kids and get scared by things like failing to ride a bike or failing to learn to swim. Some kids will then end up going "I'll never ride a bike/swim again!" and leave it at that. In the back of our minds, it's actually the last thing we want because if it wasn't then why even try in the first place, right? The frustration of not being able to do what we want, or not being able to love the person whom we're interested, will make us bitter like that. That's why I think Sayu's initial reaction about living out her life with cats was something along these lines. Its because she decided to go against that bitterness and persist to try again is probably the basis of why everyone on the forums here are giving her so much props this last episode. We hate seeing others give up, and love it when they persist and inspire others, such is the nature of humans. As for Kaname, I disagree that he's just settling with anyone. The poor guy has been a footnote with regards to his love interest for all his life. He's watched her interest move from guy to guy, never stopping at his door. I believe that he had pretty much given up on Chisaki taking an interest in him long ago, and his persistence at pursuing her was half out of loneliness (remember, he had no idea anyone else was interested in himself) and half out of habit. Think about it, he has no family on the surface, no place to call home, no one to care about him. If he even gave up on his sole purpose or aim in life (to chase Chisaki around), what does he have left to live for? I think that he too was desperate to find a way out of the endless hell that he was stuck in, and Sayu's confession has just become the light that can save him. In that sense, I wouldn't consider him cowardly or fickle. He's been looking for salvation all his life. |
L-RyoshiMar 21, 2014 8:46 PM
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| I'd be so disappointed if Hikari chooses Miuna at the end but oh well. I know it's most likely not going to happen but I think there's a good chance it may happen. The way he was looking at her in this episode kind of made me feel he may end up falling for her but I hope I'm wrong. As for Tsumugu and Chisaki, I've noticed the subtle hints and I always thought there is chemistry between the two while I never felt any between Tsumugu and Manaka. |
| That scene when Tsumugu X Chisaku, and Kaname was watching, and then Sayu was watching Kaname, of my god. I had to "Oh ****" that part. That was just wow!!!! |
| Don't care for chisaki x tsumugu, they can burn in a fire together. Happy for Sayu though, glad to see kaname is actually getting noticed for once. And yeah, we can all see who's going to end up with who. |
| What an amazing episode. Poor Akira... LOL. Fuck that kid is awesome. And the pun on his name... This episode is pure joy to watch. Edit: When Chisaki was implying that she should've been the sacrifice... To be frank, I was mad, I believe Tsumugu was too. "Don't you dare say the word Chisaki" Chisaki is a very conflicting character, and I like her very much. |
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Shicchi said: Tony777 said: kisschuu said: Wow, great job Tony777! I am trying to read these conversations and try to see where people may have thought there were hints, but just like you, I just do not see it. It was revealed in the latest episode that Tsumugu may have started to develop feelings for Chisaki pre-time skip because he thought she was like the sea. (Like during the events he described). So there is that. I feel like the show is trying to show us this as if they were pointing to it all along but if I went back and watched it, there still would be no indication for me that those two liked/loved/whatever each other. My two cents anyways. Tsumugu x Chisaki will always be a little out of place for me and thrown together but whatever. I'm still hoping they don't end up together. Thank you sweetheart. I feel the same. Unfortunately I'm almost certain they will end up together ;) But then again who knows :) Yeah... I mean they probably will be. I think it is safe to assume that. :p But I like to think that..ya know, who knows! |
| Great episode, teared up with the sayu x kaname scene. Ship so hard! Now gotta get my other two ships confirmed! Come on Hikari, choose the right girl! Chisaki, choose the right guy! |
Felixphaeton said: Currently, my favorite characters in order are: 1) Miuna 2) Hikari 3) Sayu 4) Tsumugu 5) Uroko 6) Kaname 7) Akari 8) Manaka 9) Uroko's curse fish 10) Sayama 11) the red sea slug 12) ....Chisaki How about Akira?! That kid is awesome! |
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| Great job Sayu was finally able to confess AND looks like USS Sayu x Kaname went full sail now :) Another ship that is set pretty much 90% already is Tsumugu x Chisaki. The last two look like this: Hikari x Manaka and Miuna x Random school dude; or Hikari x Miuna and something happens to Manaka (honestly I like this one the best). |
| I have a question, why is everyone saying Sayu X Kaname is now a couple and in full sail or whatever? Don't get me wrong they are my OTP, but didn't Kaname just say that he will stop looking at her as a kid and as a girl his age? I don't know if they are officially a 'couple' just by that... Maybe I missed something, and please no rude replies haha, just wondering |
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AnimeFish2219 said: I have a question, why is everyone saying Sayu X Kaname is now a couple and in full sail or whatever? Don't get me wrong they are my OTP, but didn't Kaname just say that he will stop looking at her as a kid and as a girl his age? I don't know if they are officially a 'couple' just by that... Maybe I missed something, and please no rude replies haha, just wondering Especially, perhaps because of the frustration he decided to take SAyu |
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